Del Toro's underground railroad is an attempt to be humane, but it is not without risks to the people he is helping, and there is no attempt to say the majority of Americans are wrong for seeing the end of illegal immigration. The one thoroughly admirable characters (because of extraordinarily short time on screen) in the movie are the cops making an arrest for drunk driving. I think the depiction of the left (up until the unreasonably benign ending) is almost as negative as that of the right. Everyone in Frech 75 is just a step away from ratting on their friends and it all seems like performative and counterproductive. But it is the first PTA movie I would be willing to watch a second time.
I think those who haven't read Pynchon don't get the vibe, which isn't a matter of the movie being realistic at all, and therefore without "lessons." There are no lessons in Pynchon or the film (to my mind). The scene of the phones at the end is tragic, if anything.
TBC, it caricatures the MI right by making it appear massively more bloodthirsty and racist than it was/is, and the revolutionary left by making it appear massively less bloodthirsty and racist than it was/is.
> Despite the positive contrast with Lockjaw, his depiction of the French 75 is not sympathetic. Pat becomes a deadbeat drug addict, Perfidia abandons her child and rats out her friends, and other French 75 members are depicted as annoying, ineffectual woke scolds.
Which of these are reliably seen by the left as unsympathetic though?
Well, I think Anderson at least sees them as unsympathetic. But even among the left, I don't think they would celebrate Pat's addiction and they're probably also rolling their eyes at the phone-booth password guy.
> Anderson’s alternative vision is captured in the final scene of the film.
Also crucially in Benicio Del Toro's underground railroad. Service-oriented and quietly effective in contrast to the showier French 75
Del Toro's underground railroad is an attempt to be humane, but it is not without risks to the people he is helping, and there is no attempt to say the majority of Americans are wrong for seeing the end of illegal immigration. The one thoroughly admirable characters (because of extraordinarily short time on screen) in the movie are the cops making an arrest for drunk driving. I think the depiction of the left (up until the unreasonably benign ending) is almost as negative as that of the right. Everyone in Frech 75 is just a step away from ratting on their friends and it all seems like performative and counterproductive. But it is the first PTA movie I would be willing to watch a second time.
Oh goodness! The paranoid Pynchonian undercurrents do not fully support this reading though if you haven’t read Pynchon indeed they’d be hard to see.
Yeah I haven't read the novel. It's my understanding that the movie is inspired by the novel, but not really a direct adaptation. Is that right?
I think those who haven't read Pynchon don't get the vibe, which isn't a matter of the movie being realistic at all, and therefore without "lessons." There are no lessons in Pynchon or the film (to my mind). The scene of the phones at the end is tragic, if anything.
TBC, it caricatures the MI right by making it appear massively more bloodthirsty and racist than it was/is, and the revolutionary left by making it appear massively less bloodthirsty and racist than it was/is.
> Despite the positive contrast with Lockjaw, his depiction of the French 75 is not sympathetic. Pat becomes a deadbeat drug addict, Perfidia abandons her child and rats out her friends, and other French 75 members are depicted as annoying, ineffectual woke scolds.
Which of these are reliably seen by the left as unsympathetic though?
Probably only the ratting of friends.
Well, I think Anderson at least sees them as unsympathetic. But even among the left, I don't think they would celebrate Pat's addiction and they're probably also rolling their eyes at the phone-booth password guy.
Viva la revolución!! 🩶🤍 The fact that it enrages conservatives is the absolute icing on the cake🙏