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Nathan El's avatar

Saying that protecting species is unnatural is quite silly, at least without further nuance: the reason these species require protection in the first place is human activity, not mere nature; eg the spotted owls are being invaded by the barred owls due to the huge amount of logging that has occurred in their native range which the barred owls are less sensitive to; so yes, it's indeed a further artificial intervention to cull the barred owls but it's to undo a major negative effect of a first intervention, so overall I like most people still see this as a form of nature preservation.

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Maxwell E's avatar

I found this post thought-provoking, because ultimately you are correct; a considerable fraction of the environmentalist movement has always been unwilling to commit to internal logical consistency, unwilling to admit the secondary and tertiary impacts of certain decisions may be worse than the consequence of what they are trying to prevent.

Nevertheless, it is entirely possible to claim that none of this is core to environmentalism; a rational agent, someone capable of calculating and considering tradeoffs, even if they were a passionate environmentalist, should be able to acknowledge the value of denser cities and nuclear power. I count myself in that boat.

That having been said, I consider myself to be a conservationist as well as an environmentalist, because the most salient meaning of “environmental conservation” to me is the protection of public lands. I would fight tooth and nail to defend wilderness designation where it exists and to expand it where it is currently rare. I, too, am inspired by the ideas of EO Wilson, or Ed Abbey, w.r.t. the proportion of the planet that could be set aside as protected.

It strikes me that if you could snap your fingers and add 25 IQ points to every self-proclaimed environmental activist (without affecting their core values whatsoever!) you would immediately see these self-defeating actions (shutting down nuclear, NIMBY protesting, NEPA) wind down or cease. Therefore it’s not a problem with the core values of this group — it’s a simple lack of logical/rational understanding.

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